We Hired a Framer & Permit Update!

Last week, we hired a framer. It took awhile to get estimates from a few because it’s busy season for them. A few builders initially stopped by to take a look at Brick House 319 and glance at the architectural plans. I would then follow up and email the PDF plans to them so that they could work up an estimate.

And then time would go by. Either it took a long time to get an estimate OR we didn’t hear back from them.

Since John is the General Contractor/Homeowner, our situation is obviously different than other framing/building jobs. We’ll order the lumber and have it delivered. Usually, the framer/builder does this. Initially, John planned to dig the footing and the builder usually does this as well (this has changed/read below).  Obviously, all of you know, John does as much work as possible in order to save money. If we were rich/well-off/ wealthy/well-heeled/deep-pocketed, we would simply pay people to do all of the work for us. Wouldn’t that be nice! And I think I would ask for a swimming pool for our big back yard since humidity makes me uncomfortable. That would be nice too!

The framer we hired was actually doing a job near Brick House 319, and unbeknownst to us, had been driving by the house all winter observing John hauling the hoard out (along with many others). When John initially called him at the end of June, the framer said, “I know your house, I drove by it all winter…what was going on over there!!!!!!??????” He was amazed at the never-ending stuff that came out of the house.

When the framer came over last week, we hit it off, he gave us a verbal approximate/estimate, I then emailed him the PDF plans, he called John the following day to discuss the firm price for framing out the gambrel roof and building the 2-story 18×18 addition at the back of the house.

In the meantime, I had already sent the PDF plans to the lumber yard for an estimate on the cost of lumber for the job. Well, lumber yards are busy too and it takes weeks to get estimates from them as well.

The framer also gave John a fair price on digging the footing for the addition. All along the plan was for John to dig the footing but with the framer giving us a good price, it just makes sense for him to do it. By the time John rents the machine, brings it back to the house, digs the footing and then returns the machine, it’s just easier to have the framer do it with his own machine.

About the building permit: Of course, each township is different. In our township, the building department will NOT issue a permit until ALL the subcontractors are hired and each one of them has all of their paperwork submitted (proof of insurance, workman’s comp, etc). We have already hired the electrician, plumber and mason. All of them submitted their paperwork but we were waiting on estimates from framers, and until we hired one, the permit was on hold.

Today or tomorrow, the framer will submit his insurance information to the township, and once he does, we’re hoping and assuming the building permit will be issued by Friday of this week. However, we have to hire the HVAC contractor as well. We have estimates and we’ll make our decision today on who we hire.

Townships that border ours do it differently. Rather than waiting for ALL subcontractors to submit paperwork, they issue permits individually, which is less of a wait time. It was done this way in our township in NJ. But NJ is densely populated so there was a wait time of 2 to 3 weeks for each permit.

It’s all about coordination. When we hired the framer, John and I looked at replacement windows for the existing part of the house and chose which ones that we want. It’s best to have the framer measure the windows before ordering, and once ordered, it takes about ten days for delivery.

Next, we have to choose windows and French doors for the new addition. It can take a few weeks for delivery.


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